tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post113826157772470899..comments2023-11-05T23:25:31.498+11:00Comments on Wot Is It Good 4: Foreign Agents Registration ActUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138323055309810382006-01-27T11:50:00.000+11:002006-01-27T11:50:00.000+11:00Lukery,You beat me to the punch! I was thinking o...Lukery,<BR/>You beat me to the punch! I was thinking of writing a dialogue like that. In fact, the other day I was at my desk at work and just started laughing out loud when I remembered Jones asking Edmonds if her case had anything to do with white slavery.<BR/><BR/>It helps to keep a good sense of humor. It's about the only weapon we have left against this horribly corrupt Bush Administration...Miguelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15674950013243401071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138317329917052142006-01-27T10:15:00.000+11:002006-01-27T10:15:00.000+11:00" But please don't let it be Alex Jones again..."S..." But please don't let it be Alex Jones again..."<BR/><BR/>SE: alex, there are criminals in the USG who were directly involved in the murder of 3000 americans. i cant name these people directly - but i can tell you which positions they hold. specifically, and i have proof of this, the Undersecretary of<BR/><BR/>AJ: yeah - i know. white slavery! KBR and Halliburton! duke cunningham - 800 million!<BR/><BR/>SE: Alex - listen carefully. the reason they did 911 was...<BR/><BR/>AJ: its the illuminati! bohemian grove!<BR/><BR/>SE: listen alex! there are 6 people i'm gonna name for you. number one - the undersecretary of<BR/><BR/>AJ: clinton got his own personal delivery of blow from the airport...<BR/><BR/>SE: goodbye alex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138313146494559152006-01-27T09:05:00.000+11:002006-01-27T09:05:00.000+11:00thanks viget - that's great. here is sibel's direc...thanks viget - that's great. <BR/><BR/>here is sibel's direct quote: "he (livingston) is charging $1.2m - he's charging turkey - and this is not the government of Turkish Republic, this is umm - who are these people who are paying him $1.2m per year? to do what? that is the question."<BR/><BR/>btw - the report that viget is talking about is <A HREF="http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/01/livingston-group.html" REL="nofollow">here</A><BR/><BR/>fwiw - sibel says that it's $1.2m - livingston actually has 3 lobbying companies - at least 2 of them got paid by 'turkey'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138309255618482842006-01-27T08:00:00.000+11:002006-01-27T08:00:00.000+11:00Miguel --On second thought, you may be right on th...Miguel --<BR/><BR/>On second thought, you may be right on the money. I just read the Public Citizen case study on Livingston's lobbying group, and what struck me was that it was only after Rep. Schiff introduced the amendment to the foreign operations appropriations bill, did Livingston's lobbying against the Armenian genocide resolution shift into high gear.<BR/><BR/>Schiff's amendment specifically prohibited the use of United States foreign aid money to Turkey for lobbying purposes against the Armenian resolution. Supposedly there is already a law that prohibits using US aid for lobbying purposes, but this specific prohibition really got into Livingston's craw. It seemed also to be the genesis of the Hastert bribes, as it required the personal intervention of Hastert, Delay and Blunt to kill the amendment in conference committee.<BR/><BR/>So, even though the law was already on the books, and the Armenian resolution was unlikely to pass, Livingston went apes*it over this seemingly "symbolic" amendment. Why? And why did this have to go the highest levels to kill it? Could it be that his $1.8 million p.a. cash cow would now be in jeopardy because in reality that money was just redirected US aid? It's worth noting that according to public citizen, Livingston was paid $1.8 million each year from 2000 to 2004 to represent Turkey, regardless of whatever lobbying efforts he did (and what exactly WAS he doing for Turkey in 2000, 2001 and 2002?).<BR/><BR/>When you add to the mix that Livingston was one of only a few K street types to attend the May 2005 soiree for Tom Delay hosted by the American Conservative Union, and the gossip we've heard regarding Scanlon's and Abramoff's alleged role in axing Livingston, what the heck is going on here?<BR/><BR/>Oh, and then there's the strangest (to me) thing of all, that Duke Cunningham was the one to introduce the amendment to axe the $1 Billion supplemental appropriation for Turkey. Yet he was the recipient of Livingston's two PACs' largesse in the 2000-2004 election cycles, to the tune of $3000 ($2000 of which comes from the Livingston Group PAC, whose contributors are presumably Livingston's clients). Not something you'd expect of someone who was actively trying to undermine one of your best clients, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138308215834481262006-01-27T07:43:00.000+11:002006-01-27T07:43:00.000+11:00Viget,"it's some org like the ATC"I thought of tha...Viget,<BR/><BR/>"it's some org like the ATC"<BR/><BR/>I thought of that possibility too, though it would be stunning to me that the nation of Turkey is so bankrupt they couldn't come up with a million dollars for lobbying fees.<BR/><BR/>Another thought I had was that she is trying to differentiate betweent the Turkish Republic and the Turkish military- that the money is ultimately coming from the military's budget.<BR/><BR/>I hope she does a call-in interview where one of us can call in and try to get more clues on this important point. But please don't let it be Alex Jones again...Miguelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15674950013243401071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138306206061772152006-01-27T07:10:00.000+11:002006-01-27T07:10:00.000+11:00hmmm - better than anything that i came up with, b...hmmm - better than anything that i came up with, but still not particularly convincing...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138298953392063812006-01-27T05:09:00.000+11:002006-01-27T05:09:00.000+11:00Miguel--Or maybe she means that it's some org like...Miguel--<BR/><BR/>Or maybe she means that it's some org like the ATC that pays the fees, even though the Livingston group lobbies "on behalf of" the Turkish gov't?<BR/><BR/>You know, sort of like Mommy and Daddy paying for your brand new Porsche?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5194776.post-1138297060334301482006-01-27T04:37:00.000+11:002006-01-27T04:37:00.000+11:00Just another thought about Sibel's cryptic comment...Just another thought about Sibel's cryptic comment on the Alex Jones show about the Turkish Republic "not paying" Robert Livingston's lobbying fees. Maybe she was trying to say that it is the American taxpayer, through giving aid to Turkey, that is ultimately paying for all this. I can't see how Sibel would differentiate the Turkish Embassy from the Republic of Turkey, so I am throwing that idea out for discussion, if anyone is interested.Miguelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15674950013243401071noreply@blogger.com