Wednesday, December 21, 2005

impeachment polling

this is brilliant. Richard Morin, Washington Post Polling Editor, was doing a live chat online - here's the exchange:
Naperville, Ill.: Why haven't you polled on public support for the impeachment of George W. Bush?

Richard Morin: This question makes me mad...

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Seattle, Wash.: How come ABC News/Post poll has not yet polled on impeachment?

Richard Morin: Getting madder...

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Haymarket, Va.: With all the recent scandals and illegal/unconstitutional actions of the President, why hasn't ABC News/Washington Post polled whether the President should be impeached?

Richard Morin: Madder still...

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Dublin, Ireland: In a statement on Sunday, John Dean, former White House counsel during Watergate, stated that President Bush is "the first President to admit to an impeachable offense." Will The Washington Post be polling about impeachment of the President in the near future, now that this topic has taken on national significance?

Richard Morin: An impeachment demand from Ireland? Oh my gawd. Now I'm furious.
(he says a bit more)

lol. i should send him an email describing my involvement - all the way from Australia. Oh my fucking gawd.

UPDATE: at the end of the chat, there was this:
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Richard Morin: Okay, there are a LOT of angry comments directed at me over my impeachment poll response(s). We're out of time, but I do want to share them with you.

Here they come...Welcome to my world! And see you next time.

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Tucson, Ariz.: Will your next poll ask for reactions to the White House contention that when the Bill of Rights interferes with their freedom of action it can be ignored?

Will there be any questions about how this disregard for constitutional limits affects opinions on impeachment?

Richard Morin: still more...

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Arlington, Va.: Senate Democratic Deputy Whip has begun the impeachment discussion by publicly asking 4 Presidential scholars about whether this is an impeachable offense. It is too early in this matter for a leader to "call for" impeachment, but it is becoming a serious discussion topic.

Howard Dean, in an email to supporters, just wrote, "Richard Nixon once said in an interview that, "if the president does it, it can't be illegal."

"He found out that wasn't true. This administration may need a reminder."

I don't see why someone has to "call for" impeachment before it becomes a pollable topic. Shouldn't the fact that it's being discussed as a possibility be enough?

Thanks.

Richard Morin: more...

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Lansing, N.Y.: Now that President Bush has openly admitted that he does not feel he has to obey laws he finds constraining (the FISA) and has in fact broken this law numerous times and plans to continue doing so, will you include a question in your polls asking if respondents think he should be impeached?

Richard Morin: more...

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Washington, D.C.: In her November 13 column, Post Ombudsman Deborah Howell addressed reader requests for The Post to polls to measure public support for impeachment.

Howell wrote: "First, there was a swarm to me and to Post Polling Editor Richard Morin asking that The Post do a poll on whether President Bush should be impeached ... The question many demanded that The Post ask is biased and would produce a misleading result, Morin said; he added that the campaign was started by Democrats.com."

Please explain WHY a question asking if President Bush should be impeached if he lied to the country about war is "biased".

Please also explain how this is consistent with polls the Post ran -- under your direction, I might add -- in 1998 asking whether then-President Clinton should be impeached if he had an affair with Monica Lewinsky. Do you now believe those questions you asked -- and reported on -- throughout 1998 were "biased"? If so, do you believe you and The Post owe Clinton an apology?

Why does The Post think it is appropriate to raise the spectre of impeachment when there is a Democratic president, but not when there is a Republican in office?

For more information, see this post: Media continues to ignore impeachment polling

Richard Morin: still another...

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Alexandria, Va.: So what if the questions on impeachment are drummed up by a Web site? Seriously, so what? It would be most interesting to see what percentage of the population actually believes impeachment should be on the table, to see whether it really is just a Democratic canard or the start of a groundswell. After all, the Constitution says impeachment is for "high crimes and misdemeanors", and breaking the law certainly qualifies.

Richard Morin: and another...

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Whitewater, Wis.: Do you think the upbeat poll simply indicates a holiday rush of benevolence? Do you think there is a possibility that impeachment proceedings will begin in 2006?

Richard Morin: and another...

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Falls Church, Va.: "An impeachment demand from Ireland? Oh my gawd. Now I'm furious," you say. Are there no American citizens living in Ireland??? And though I agree that these mass campaigns to get impeachment questions in your polls are poorly organized and downright obnoxious, now that there are members of Congress suggesting that impeachment would be appropriate if, in fact, the spying with no warrant is illegal (e.g. Boxer, Lewis) will you consider asking the question? Or are members of Congress only important when they are running for president?

Richard Morin: and another...

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What About Boxer?: Excuse me - but I don't know the site you refer to. I DO know my representatives' positions.

You just posted this:

"That said. we do not ask about impeachment because it is not a serious option or a topic of considered discussion--witness the fact that no member of congressional Democratic leadership or any of the serious Democratic presidential candidates in '08 are calling for Bush's impeachment. When it is or they are, we will ask about it in our polls."

Well, BOXER JUST DID. PELOSI DID. FEINGOLD DID...

Not to mention the Nations foremost expert on

presidential hubris, Mr. John Dean.

DO THE POLL ON IMPEACHMENT.

Enough, already.

Richard Morin: Here's one

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Re- Impeachment: Three words for those of you demanding The President be impeached.

President Dick Cheney.

Richard Morin: and let this be the last word..."

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