Wednesday, September 20, 2006

This propaganda is false

* wapo:
"Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist signaled yesterday that he and other White House allies will filibuster a bill dealing with the interrogation and prosecution of detainees if they cannot persuade a rival group of Republicans to rewrite key provisions opposed by President Bush."

* oldschool's preznit speaks:
"Some have argued that the democratic changes we're seeing in the Middle East are destabilizing the region.

This argument rests on a false assumption: that the Middle East was stable to begin with.

The reality is that the stability we thought we saw in the Middle East was a mirage."
* and speaks again:
"Imagine what it's like to be a young person living in a country that is not moving toward reform. You're 21 years old, and while your peers in other parts of the world are casting their ballots for the first time, you are powerless to change the course of your government."
* and speaks again:
"Today I'd like to speak directly to the people across the broader Middle East.

My country desires peace. Extremists in your midst spread propaganda claiming that the West is engaged in a war against Islam.

This propaganda is false and its purpose is to confuse you and justify acts of terror."


ewastud said...

This reminds me of liar's paradox: the Cretan Epimenides who said "Cretans are all liars."

lukery said...

so does that mean that Epimenides was saying that all... hang on - no wait - did he mean - no, wait. how does...

jeebus - i wish the president had the mental acuity to actually PRONOUNCE 'paradox' - i wouldnt dare hope that he could actually comprehend what it meant

rimone said...

this entire thing, w/his 'speeches' or whatever being trumpeted all over as if he has something new to say, is totally making me SICK.

sick enough 'do' things.

lukery said...

he brought us something new last time he was at the UN

"dear condi - may i pee?"

Superteemu said...

Stop making fun of pee permissions already - The Decider has to make scores of decisions of national and global importance, plus some that are historical and/or biblical in their scale.

You can't except him to do such micromanaging as his toilet schedule too, he has secretaries, aides and secret service for that.

(Heard on White House: "Dick! I signed that doubleplus-interrogation bill, am I now allowed to get something to eat?")

lukery said...

lol - if it was any other president, he'd have been laughed into the history books.

rimone said...

me wuz seepy: 'sick enough 'do' things.'

shoulda been 'sick enough to 'do' things.'

rimone said...

Superteemu: Stop making fun of pee permissions already


i laughed my ass off at the rest of your comment, so ty. :-)

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oldschool said...

Goddammit Lukery - you know good and goddamm well that I hate it when you call that ignoramus "your preznit" - now you've gone and upped the ante and called him "oldschool's preznit". Just tryin' to draw me out - as in where the hell is oldschool?

T'is a fine question - been wonderin' that myself. Been lost in a maze of stuff, still workin' to get my license to practice law back - which means I've been taking interminable 'continuing legal education' classes as a prerequisite to dropping the final check for a few thousand dollars in back fees - which should finally clear me up - maybe as early as next week - for getting it back. A whole shit-load of pain-in-the-butt stuff. As if I've forgotten everything I ever learned. Oh well - at least I didn't have to take the freakin' bar exam again.

I'm wide open, by the way, for suggestions as to stuff I might do which would actually make a difference: assuming, that is, that there are enough people who remember who I am so that I can pay the rent and stuff. And one might well keep in mind that, in my entire previous legal career, I never once had to deal with a case involving the Executive Branch dropping a whole shit-load of evil on a clandestine intelligence service or employee thereof, or never had a case involving 'disappeared' clients somewhere in Egypt, or human rights violations at Guantanamo Bay - or other things that never much came up in Indianapolis. AND, I've got to move back to Indy and find a decent place to live and get out of this one-horse town, and, and,....

And quit calling that bastard "My preznit"!!


LeeB said...

WooHoo, Oldschool! That's tellin' 'im!!

oldschool said...

Heh,heh..... Did I miss anything while I was gone....?

LeeB said...

Jeez, how does one answer that . . . Miss anything?
Only everything. . . . and then again, nothing.

Stay tuned. Something may break any minute. ;-)

lukery said...

oldschool - HA!

Great to hear that yuo are on-track re your license! Congratulations on your way back from BUBT - may your landings be soft.

lukery said...

if you missed anything, it was Sibel's new film. watch the trailer, send it to your friends.

oldschool said...

"may your landings be soft....

what a lovely, apt, way to put it - and I know that you know both what you mean, and what I face.

I'm workin' on it pal - but there comes a time to go back to war, now doesn't there?

lukery said...

there comes a time to go back to war, now doesn't there?

each in their own way, in their own time. it's a big step to go from 'never again' to 'maybe' - and i imagine the next step is even more biggerer.


rimone said...

best of luck, oldschool.

personally, i don't mind when anyone calls him 'my preznit.'

what i DO mind is when they say 'my/your president.'

cuz he's NOT. neither mine nor anyone else's.

ps, my word verification is bshbu. that's how i used to do shorthand in offices--leave out the vowels. now everyone does it in txtng, which is cool.

but bshbu? LMAO!

lukery said...

rimone - that should be LM

Anonymous said...

duh? /rimone (sorry time's running out here and i have shitloads to do including going outside. the horror, the horror.

lukery said...

rimone: "that's how i used to do shorthand in offices--leave out the vowels. "
rimone: "LMAO"
lukery: "that should be LM"

happy mingling

Kathleen said...


Ever do Constitutional law and civil rights stuff? That's kind of heady.