Friday, December 15, 2006

President Bush and the DC war pundits

* josh:
"It does appear you've got a basic division in the country (re Iraq): the public and the military brass on one side and President Bush and the DC war pundits on the other."
* christy:
"Let's start with a small question: why on earth would any non-US citizen ever want to come here, even for vacation or travel purposes, with this sort of draconian "if you aren't a citizen, we can hold you indefinitely, with no right to habeas or legal proceedings, because we get to define who may or may not be an 'enemy combatant' and you can't question us about it" rule on the books?"

* froomkin:
"The poll asked: "Do you think the United States has an obligation to American soldiers who have been killed or wounded in Iraq to remain in Iraq until the mission there is completed, or not?"

A stunning 53 percent of respondents said the U.S. has no such obligation, compared to 39 percent who say it does."
stunning? errrr. i'd say the 39% is more stunning. (except that we long ago reached the point where it became obvious that a large percentage of the american population is stupid)

* here's another example from Froomkin yesterday:
"More than 4 in 10 predict American troops will be deployed in Iraq for more than two years, though just 14% endorse that idea."
huh?? 60% think that troops will be home in 2 years?

* Pen's Usual Suspect series continues. This time it's Paul Wolfowitz's turn

* miguel:
"Don't know whether you heard the NPR segment on 'friendly espionage' yesterday. It featured Giraldi. But the funniest quote was from Jim Woolsey, who claimed the Israelis don't spy on the U.S. since Jonathan Pollard because they've assured him (Woolsey) they don't do it anymore, and Woolsey believes the Israelis wouldn't lie to him.

Uhhh, has everyone forgot the AIPAC case and the Israeli Art Student spy ring? NPR didn't mention either of these 'incidents'."

3 comments:

rimone said...

The poll asked: "Do you think the United States has an obligation to American soldiers who have been killed or wounded in Iraq to remain in Iraq until the mission there is completed, or not?"

A stunning 53 percent of respondents said the U.S. has no such obligation, compared to 39 percent who say it does."


that sound y'all just heard was my fucking head exploding. luke, as usual, you're too kind.

we're fucking MORONS! totally uninformed, totally gullible.

hey, it's xmas! let's go shopping!

lukery said...

yeah - that's me. too kind to the stupid warmongering chritopathic subsegment of the american population.

oldschool said...

A stunning 53 percent of respondents said the U.S. has no such obligation (to its killed or wounded), compared to 39 percent who say it does.

In all fairness, wasn't that question asked in the context of whether the U.S. should stay in Iraq (as a way of honoring its fallen troops)?(not that they should be ignored - just that they shouldn't be used to prolong our remaining in Iraq?)