Calipedence, some excellent points and very well said. I'm a bit doubtful about the public context in which changes are taking place within the US and globally. It's a question of awareness and public perceptions as they now stand. What is it, 70% of Americans currently believe Iran possesses nuclear weapons, or is close to getting them? That kind of disinformation is a powerful mechanism for drowning out any voices of protest. If there is a nuclear 'October Surprise' then the propaganda value would be almost insourmountable. Police state mechanisms, heavy censorship, web site crackdowns, Republican gains in the Nov elections etc. It simply may not be possible to generate any public acceptance for civil protest. US society will be deeply divided and the majority will be driven by fear and not in the mood to entertain 'wild conspiracies' of any kind.
There are other ingredients. Remember, for a lot of Americans the war on terror is still far away. The shops are open, the Dodgers are playing better, American Idol and Katie Couric are all 'evidence' to many people that the mechanisms of US democracy are functioning just fine, despite the war in Iraq. So there are enormous social and cultural factors at work against asking any hard political questions. A nuclear explosion - or even a dirty bomb - is a hell of a shove towards social compliance.
I'm not very hopeful. I read the papers in my own country, Australia, and I am appalled at the superficial, uninformed and jingoistic material there. Our leading newspapers are all Murdoch owned with feature writers somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan. Our letters columns are full of heated debate about whether muslims are 'good' or 'bad'. But there is almost no informed debate because the kind of background material we get here with Lukery, and elsewhere, is just totally absent. People are discussing the Middle East as they would football teams, with a thick spread of 'war on terror' pasted on top.
Undoubtedly Europe is very different and I expect that they would take a far more vigorous stand if Bush decided to go nuclear against Iran (or by proxy, through Israel). If Iran gets seriously attacked just keep in mind that China, Russia and Iran have a mutual defence pact and that events in the US could be completely overshadowed by conflict in the ME with those countries.
The capacity of US as a society to resist the fait acompli that would follow any nuclear-type terrorist incident within the US is almost zero, in my view. These power bunnies are not going to give up without a fight, and they will use EVERY false statement and piece of propaganda they can to achieve their ends.
It's a strange aspect that a US military revolt may provide the only solution. I know some Americans whose passports are in place if things turn nasty.
One thing I have figured out about these guys. They ARE on a complete par with the 1930s German leadership. Completely criminal, unpredictable and VERY dangerous. Let's hope that luck prevails and these bozos forgoe the big pusch. Cheers.
"I cannot believe it would be "a hope" to see this happen either...or for our "saving grace." But if Fitzgerald, the US military and whatever uncorrupted officials, agents and anyone else sworn to uphold the Constitution don't get off their @sses and call a halt to this VERY soon-like within the next week or so-the United States of America as we all knew it is OVER. Democracy cancelled...thnx everyone
I'll never forgive any of them if this happens-and they shouldn't bother to call themselves Americans since they are aiding and abetting an un-American, illegal form of government and allowing its overthrow to be complete.
Rove has stated he has an "October Surprise" for the nation. Only God and the devil know what that may be...
Who knew America was so full of cowards...where's a real cowboy when we need one?"