Thursday, October 26, 2006

America will be humbled when we leave Iraq.

* wapo:
"Federal law enforcement sources confirmed yesterday that the FBI opened an investigation in 2005 into whether Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) improperly enlisted the aid of a pro-Israel lobbying group, but they cautioned that no evidence of wrongdoing was found.
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Although the case is still considered open, officials said, the allegations have not been substantiated, and there has been no significant investigative activity on the issue in recent months. The inquiry was first reported by Time magazine.
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Time reported that investigators were looking at whether Harman -- who is involved in an intraparty dispute over who might head the intelligence panel -- promised to try to persuade the Justice Department to "go lighter" on the former AIPAC officials."
* arkin:
" Withdrawal of U.S. forces is a foregone conclusion at this point. That is to say, it is one hundred percent certain that the United States will be out of Iraq before there is peace, Republican or Democratic rule.

On the campaign trail, in Washington policy circles, and in the electronic echo chamber of the Internet, there are an abundance of "plans" for what we should do.

Virtually all of them involve the impossibility of America continuing to impose its will on Iraq: to compel some Western version of democracy; to partition the country into separate Kurd, Shiite and Sunni zones; to turn religious and tribal constituents into secular nationalists.

Whether these plans have merit is no longer relevant: The level of insecurity is so high, the doors have slammed shut. America is not going to increase the size of U.S. forces on the ground to make a difference, and there is no particular reason to think that even a significant increase would make a difference.

What is left is for us to admit to ourselves that we can not decide what will happen in Iraq. We can not even influence what will happen unless we withdraw.
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The dynamics in some ways are like a wild video shooting game: American soldiers pulling the triggers hope to get to the next level, aware that their only chance is killing them first. But there is no next level to get to, and the supply of enemy is not limited by some "programmer" -- some enemy commander -- with only so many soldiers in his formation. The supply is endless.
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America will be humbled when we leave Iraq. Let's recognize this is the bitter pill we must swallow now. It ironically will improve our standing in much of the world as we admit that we need the world's help. It will force us to make a reality of our empty pledge to pursue non-military solutions to the challenge of terrorism.

And what of the enemy? Muslim extremists and terrorists will celebrate our defeat, emboldened even more into believing that they can "win" their war, just as they once defeated the Soviet empire in Afghanistan. It is our punishment and the conundrum: They will celebrate, and they may even be momentarily strengthened. But by stepping off the treadmill, we will also remove so much of the inspiration and certainty that fuels our enemies."

8 comments:

rimone said...

America will be humbled when we leave Iraq.

no, bu$hCo and the kool-aid drinkers will be humbled and shitting themselves w/the rest of amerika. real Americans will be dancing in the streets along w/the rest of the world.

USA! USA! we will NOT be humbled cause we're no. 1!

«—U®Anu§—» said...

Rush says Iraqi terrorists are voting for democrats.

What a screwball.

lukery said...

To The Streets!
To The Streets!
To The Streets!
To The Streets!

rimone said...

definitely. it's LONG past due, six fucking years of this bullshit.

«—U®Anu§—» said...

We've been there before. In 1970 the National Guard killed four student protestors at Kent State. Ellsberg published the Pentagon Papers the next year, the same year I registered with Selective Service. You have to know I was unhappy! The war dragged on another long three years. I remember that spring it was rainy, and I had to spend spring break in the library, but we ended it in Vietnam. And, except for power grubbing GOP types, things have been better since. Well, until now, although the 80s and early 90s were no picnic. Shit baby, the worst thing about being my age is I can see trouble brewing. I have "perspective." Whew, maybe a miracle will happen and we'll cross out evil this time around. In 1974, I thought we had arrived. I was wrong.

rimone said...

me too. in the 70s when i first heard of the chisitian righteous nutballs, i thought they were a tiny cult-like thing and didn't pay attention even though i heard about them more and more up to the 90s when they were murdering doctors who performed abortions. look where we're stuck now. we have to keep our eyes on these fuckers 24/7 cause they'll always be crazy people to support them and their numbers grow due to the hatemongers and LIARS among US.

«—U®Anu§—» said...

A good point. I came from a small town that had more churches than citizens, and I knew the religious movement could catch on. I knew it could be as bad as it's been, but I didn't believe it would happen. I knew more than a few girls who had illegal abortions. Putting that option back on the table is a far greater evil than legal abortion could ever be.

The last one was really tough. She was a first semester college student, one of my suite mates' girlfriends. Roe v. Wade had been affirmed, but would be enacted too late for her. So, she gave herself an abortion with a screwdriver. She almost bled to death, but the health center fixed it. Her family disowned her and she had to drop out of school. The last time I saw her, she was cleaning tables in a pizza joint and had aged 20 years. Then she dropped out of sight. That was her introduction into the world, and life on her own. Consider, none of this is enough for the "good" pro-life Christians: they want the death penalty for doctors and their patients. It reminds me of the drug war. Pretty soon you have to exterminate everyone, because anyone can be an enabler. It's more psychopathy from social cretins.

rimone said...

Uranus: ...she gave herself an abortion with a screwdriver. She almost bled to death, but the health center fixed it. Her family disowned her and she had to drop out of school. The last time I saw her, she was cleaning tables in a pizza joint and had aged 20 years...

AAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHH! i remember when i was a little kid, some (married) teacher made headlines (and i think the cover of Life magazine) cause she was forced to go to England (or maybe Sweden, don't remember) for a legal abortion since she'd been taking thalidomide.

assbackwards fuckwits. my body (every woman's bod) is my own, goddammit and none of anyone else's biz.