Monday, March 13, 2006

war with iran

* re my "Iran, Then what?" post about wargaming and such (riffing off emptywheel), Damien notes (i have the best commentors of any blogger!):
"I've seen a few references, but apparently the US war game simulations of an Iran attack have never been contained: they always ended up with a confrontation with either Russia, China, or both."
and he points to this counterpunch article:
"Both the CIA and DIA have conducted war games to determine the consequences of an American air attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. According to Newsweek (September 27, 2004), "No one liked the outcome." According to an Air Force source, "The war games were unsuccessful at preventing the conflict from escalating." In December 2004, The Atlantic Monthly reported similar results for its own war game on this question. The architect of these games, Sam Gardner, concluded, "You have no military solution for the issues of Iran."
emptywheel actually pointed to that Atlantic Monthly article by Fallows.

the $64 gazillion question, still, is why the fuck do they want to have a war with iran?

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Go see my comment upthread on Power and the cabal.

When I read posts like this, I'm reminded of the WOPR (the computer in War Games) telling Professor Falcon, "The only way to win is not to play."

That's what these military advisors are telling the neocons in more hushed tones.

Jesus. I wonder if the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists will move the clock closer to midnight soon.

Anonymous said...

(viget is referrring to his comment here)

i hope you are right about WarGames.

i'm inclined to think that the Military_industrial_complex is more like Hal from 2001/Space Odyssey

Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave Bowman: What's the problem?
HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL?
HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL?
HAL: I know you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
Dave Bowman: Where the hell'd you get that idea, HAL?
HAL: Dave, although you took thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.